tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post113510667636315788..comments2024-02-14T03:56:12.027-08:00Comments on La Salette Journey: Paul Anthony Melansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135453497584152632005-12-24T11:44:00.000-08:002005-12-24T11:44:00.000-08:00This statement: "Bro. Andre of the St. Benedict Ce...This statement: "Bro. Andre of the St. Benedict Center is pursuing ordination outside of Benedict XVI’s hierarchy from the independent Bishop Fulham!" may be found here: http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/BishopFulham_Bro.Andre_andtheSBC.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135451299800112822005-12-24T11:08:00.000-08:002005-12-24T11:08:00.000-08:00I have researched this so-called "Bishop" Fuller. ...I have researched this so-called "Bishop" Fuller. He is not a Bishop of the Catholic Church and he is part of Our Lady of Fatima Catholic Church in Spring Hill, Florida. This "independent" church is roughly 45 miles from Tampa, Florida and falls under the jurisdiction of legitimate Catholic Bishop Robert N. Lynch - the Ordinary of the Diocese of St. Petersburg.<BR/><BR/>This schismatic movement maintains a website: http://www.olfatima.com/ and pictures of the schismatic "Bishop" Fuller (who intends to "ordain" Andre Marie, M.I.C.M.) may be found here: http://www.olfatima.com/sodality.html<BR/><BR/>At this website, there is a page for "frequently asked questions." The first question posted? This should speak much to people: "Are you really Catholics?" And the answer? This: "Most certainly yes. We remain faithful to the liturgy and beliefs of the Catholic Church prior to the Second Vatican Council."<BR/><BR/>In other words, they do not accept as legitimate the Second Vatican Council or the liturgy which we have today.<BR/><BR/>Robert is right. Andre Marie and his followers are schismatics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135447885039651862005-12-24T10:11:00.000-08:002005-12-24T10:11:00.000-08:00Brother Andre of the St. Benedict Center is pursui...Brother Andre of the St. Benedict Center is pursuing ordination outside of the Church's hierarchy from the "independent" Bishop Fulham.<BR/><BR/>I'll say it again, the Saint Benedict Center is in schism. Members of this community have placed their souls in peril.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135439564661177702005-12-24T07:52:00.000-08:002005-12-24T07:52:00.000-08:00Errata and correction:Should read: Lumen Gentium, ...Errata and correction:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Should read: Lumen Gentium, Nos. 14-16.Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135438810292090752005-12-24T07:40:00.000-08:002005-12-24T07:40:00.000-08:00Dear Mr. Kampe,No one has posted anything at this ...Dear Mr. Kampe,<BR/><BR/>No one has posted anything at this website regarding the Saint Benedict Center in Still River Massachusetts. It is the community in Richmond, New Hampshire which is not in communion with the Church and the Diocese of Manchester has addressed this fact.<BR/><BR/>The Catechism of the Catholic Church is our norm. Here's what it says regarding Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus:<BR/><BR/>"Outside the Church there is no salvation" <BR/><BR/>846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers?335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: <BR/><BR/>Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336<BR/>847 This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church: <BR/><BR/>Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.337<BR/>848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."338 <BR/><BR/>In opposition to this authoritative teaching of Holy Mother Church, a teaching which Pope John Paul II said represents a "sure norm" in his Apostolic Constitution Fidei Depositum, you wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Fr. Leonard Feeney was NEVER accused or formally charged for teaching heresy. His and SBC's "interpretation" is and has always been based on Ex Cathedra statements, JPII and Benedict XVI's private theological opinions do not settle the matter definitively."<BR/><BR/>The interpretation of this dogma maintained by the SBC in Richmond, New Hampshire is not based upon Ex Cathedra statements but upon private interpretation of these Ex Cathedra statements.<BR/><BR/>You also wrote, "It as also false that they lack a properly ordained priest, as they have been served by Fr. Michael Jarecki, a retired diocesan priest in good standing, for over 20 years. In the name of justice and charity, you all should really get your facts straight before you detract and calumniate fellow Catholics publicly.."<BR/><BR/>Actually, it was a visitor to this website (Robert) who made this claim. But you should know that valid ordination is not the only prerequisite for a priest administering the sacraments within a particular church (a diocese).<BR/><BR/>Canon Law states quite clearly that: <BR/><BR/>"Every cleric must be incardinated into some particular church or personal prelature or into an institute of consecrated life or society endowed with this faculty, so that unattached or transient clerics are NOT ALLOWED at all." (Canon 265).<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, Canon 267 states clearly that:(1) "In order for a cleric already incardinated to be incardinated VALIDLY into another particular church, he must obtain from the diocesan Bishop a letter of excardination signed by the Bishop; he must likewise obtain from the diocesan Bishop of the particular church into which he desires to be incardinated a letter of incardination signed by that Bishop."<BR/><BR/>And (2): "Excardination thus granted does not take effect unless incardination into another particular church has been obtained."<BR/><BR/>Until you can show me a letter of incardination signed by The Most Rev. John B. McCormack as well as a letter of excardination from Fr. Jarecki's previous ordinary, I must assume that Fr. Jarecki has no faculties to confer the sacraments within the Diocese of Manchester, New Hampshire.<BR/><BR/>The ball is in your court Mr. Kampe. In the future, I would advise you to spend some time with the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the documents of Vatican II (and especially Lumen Gentium, Nos. 14-14).<BR/><BR/>God love you,<BR/>PaulPaul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135397013064535862005-12-23T20:03:00.000-08:002005-12-23T20:03:00.000-08:00Fr. Leonard Feeney was NEVER accused or formally c...Fr. Leonard Feeney was NEVER accused or formally charged for teaching heresy. His and SBC's "interpretation" is and has always been based on Ex Cathedra statements, JPII and Benedict XVI's private theological opinions do not settle the matter definitively. In Ratzinger's own work TRUTH AND TOLERANCE (2003) he acknowledges the "exclusivist's claims" as legitimate, if outdated and unpopular. As for SBC's status, all 3 groups in Still River MA have been regularised and still hold ECNS as taught by Fr. Feeney (which would not be possible if they preached heresy). As for the Richmond group, lack of formal communion does not prove schism, and those who know this and continue to spread it are guilty of calumny. It as also false that they lack a properly ordained priest, as they have been served by Fr. Michael Jarecki, a retired diocesan priest in good standing, for over 20 years. In the name of justice and charity, you all should really get your facts straight before you detract and calumniate fellow Catholics publicly, some of whom are REGULAR PROFESSED and ORDAINED RELIGIOUS, adding the crime of sacrilege. Hope that you don't consider this admonition a hate crime! Merry Christmas! +JMJ+ Steve KampeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135363949980430412005-12-23T10:52:00.000-08:002005-12-23T10:52:00.000-08:00The Diocese of Manchester has said publicly that t...The Diocese of Manchester has said publicly that the Saint Benedict Center is not in communion with the Church. Since they are in schism, I would caution everyone who reads this to stay clear of them. Satan is prowling about like a roaring lion seeking souls to devour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135355881562194382005-12-23T08:38:00.000-08:002005-12-23T08:38:00.000-08:00I meant to write, "The Catechism IS NOT a book of ...I meant to write, "The Catechism IS NOT a book of opinions.."<BR/><BR/>Apologies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135355708345876242005-12-23T08:35:00.000-08:002005-12-23T08:35:00.000-08:00What is really sad is that the folks over at the s...What is really sad is that the folks over at the saint benedict center continue to accuse the Church of teaching error and reject the authoritative teaching of the Catechism. This is not how Catholics behave. The Catechism is a book of "opinions." It is authoritative and a "sure norm" as Pope John Paul II said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135289391095328152005-12-22T14:09:00.000-08:002005-12-22T14:09:00.000-08:00Anonymous, you are of course correct. Charity in ...Anonymous, you are of course correct. Charity in all things. However, if we're not committed to bringing people the truth, our charity is counterfeit.<BR/><BR/>I believe Robert has hit upon a valid point. The Saint Benedict Center is not attracting young men because it does not embrace the Church's authentic teaching on the dogma Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. <BR/><BR/>Moreover, this schismatic community intends to seek ordination for one of its members - Andre Marie - without dimissorial letters (the canonical permission) to do so.<BR/><BR/>Disobedience is not a fruit of the Holy Spirit.Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135283135311479832005-12-22T12:25:00.000-08:002005-12-22T12:25:00.000-08:00Robert,Those at the St. Benedict Center certainly ...Robert,<BR/><BR/>Those at the St. Benedict Center certainly have a misunderstanding about the teaching of the Catholic Church, but it's a theological point that can be obscure to some. We should look on them with charity and realize it may only be a small point that separates us.<BR/><BR/>I know the Holy Father does so. He visited one of the Brothers in the 80s to dicuss certain matter, and apparently corresponds with him to some degree to this day.<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135280573242271342005-12-22T11:42:00.000-08:002005-12-22T11:42:00.000-08:00James Carroll really has forfeited his credibility...James Carroll really has forfeited his credibility. You have proven that he is engaging in revisionist history Paul and that his version of the Father Leonard Feeney affair is a fraud.<BR/><BR/>I love the quote from Pope John Paul II on the Church's understanding of Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. That quote alone destroys the claims of the Saint Benedict Center.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135193929942823682005-12-21T11:38:00.000-08:002005-12-21T11:38:00.000-08:00The fact that the Saint Benedict Center cannot fin...The fact that the Saint Benedict Center cannot find a validly ordained priest to offer Holy Mass there should tell these people something. Not to mention the fact that two of the five brothers there are in their 90's.<BR/><BR/>The Holy Spirit will not bless the Saint Benedict Center in Richmond with growth because their work is of man and not of God.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-1135114491436392162005-12-20T13:34:00.000-08:002005-12-20T13:34:00.000-08:00I love it....haha. Mr. Carroll continues to embar...I love it....haha. Mr. Carroll continues to embarass himself with his silly op-ed pieces. It is small wonder that he left the priesthood. If he really believes what he writes, then his understanding of Church teaching and the Church herself is just abysmal.<BR/><BR/>Keep up your great work Paul! Your pieces are having an impact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com