tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post552291534148939656..comments2024-02-14T03:56:12.027-08:00Comments on La Salette Journey: The National "Catholic" Reporter proves itself to be a menace to individuals and society: Will Pope Francis respond as a true Shepherd?Paul Anthony Melansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-49146753377886286062014-11-22T19:34:38.940-08:002014-11-22T19:34:38.940-08:00How hard would it be for the Pope to tell the NCR ...How hard would it be for the Pope to tell the NCR to remove the name Catholic from its masthead? Not very. His authority is supreme. To suggest that the NCR doesn't fall under the Pope's authority is nonsense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-21590080799505796342014-11-22T18:11:42.303-08:002014-11-22T18:11:42.303-08:00"..the supreme authority of the Church, howev..."..the supreme authority of the Church, however, has this duty and right with regard to the entire people of God."<br /><br />That could not be more crystal clear. No doubt "Peter" will tell us now that the Code of Canon Law is somehow incorrect or "outdated."<br /><br />Ban this guy Paul. It's probably Barn anyway.Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-91169089224271880132014-11-22T16:34:45.123-08:002014-11-22T16:34:45.123-08:00The Pope is the supreme authority of the Church he...The Pope is the supreme authority of the Church here on earth. And it is [his] right and DUTY to, "demand that writings to be published by the Christian faithful which touch upon faith or morals be submitted to [his] judgment and have the duty and right to condemn writings which harm correct faith or good morals."<br />Back to the drawing board huh?<br /><br />Again, channel some of that energy into fighting the Church's enemies.Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-13896444019920282432014-11-22T16:13:02.834-08:002014-11-22T16:13:02.834-08:00Peter, your accusation that I'm using this iss...Peter, your accusation that I'm using this issue as a "litmus test" for Francis is not only dishonest but serves to highlight your animus toward me.<br /><br />Your ignorance of Catholic teaching and Canon Law is appalling. I cite two canons not for your sake as you are obviously too proud to admit when you are wrong about subsidiarity applying to the Church, but for the sake of those who do not have an agenda as you do to serve as apologist for negligence in the Church:<br /><br />Can. 823 §1. In order to preserve the integrity of the truths of faith and morals, the pastors of the Church have the duty and right to be watchful so that no harm is done to the faith or morals of the Christian faithful through writings or the use of instruments of social communication. They also have the duty and right to demand that writings to be published by the Christian faithful which touch upon faith or morals be submitted to their judgment and have the duty and right to condemn writings which harm correct faith or good morals.<br /><br />§2. Bishops, individually or gathered in particular councils or conferences of bishops, have the duty and right mentioned in §1 with regard to the Christian faithful entrusted to their care; the supreme authority of the Church, however, has this duty and right with regard to the entire people of God.<br /><br />Read that last sentence very carefully. Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-51542096960039879272014-11-22T15:28:11.505-08:002014-11-22T15:28:11.505-08:00Paul, by your logic, Pope Benedict failed as a she...Paul, by your logic, Pope Benedict failed as a shepherd because he didn't publicly condemn the NCR - they were at the same antics then as they are now. The Roman Pontiff has better things to do than speak out against what is a small-time and dying American dissenting publication. That's it. That magazine is finished and probably won't exist in 10 years. If anything, you might call for the local bishop to take further action, but to use this as a litmus test for Pope Francis is very mistaken.Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-36363303247887738402014-11-22T09:51:41.355-08:002014-11-22T09:51:41.355-08:00Actually, the principle of subsidiarity should NOT...Actually, the principle of subsidiarity should NOT be invoked here.<br /><br />Then Cardinal Bergoglio observed that Pius XII, Paul VI and John Paul II, "referring to the singular hierarchical structure of the Church, existing by the will of Christ, exclude an application of the principle of subsidiarity to the Church, which was univocal with the way this principle is intended and applied in sociology."<br /><br />The cardinal explained that a bishop possesses the power needed for the exercise of his office, which is autonomous and protected. This power, however, "coexists with the supreme authority of the Pope, who is also episcopal, ordinary and immediate over all the churches and over all the shepherds and faithful." It would not be correct to seek some kind of automatic resolution of the tension between these two functions by means of an appeal to the principle of subsidiarity, said Cardinal Bergoglio.<br /><br />Subsidiarity first came to prominence in the Church's teaching in Pius XI's 1931 social encyclical "Quadragesimo Anno." Nos. 79-80 clearly state subsidiarity is intended as a "principle of social philosophy" that seeks to protect individuals and smaller bodies from an unjustified loss of authority through an excessive concentration of power at higher levels.<br /><br />Pope John XXIII reaffirmed subsidiarity in both "Mater et Magister" and "Pacem in Terris." In the first encyclical, Nos. 51-58, John XXIII applied the principle to the exercise of authority by public authorities, particularly in the economic field. In the second encyclical, Nos. 140-141, the Pope extended the application of subsidiarity to the international level, but always restricting it to the exercise of power in the area of politics or economics.<br /><br />"Centesimus Annus," No. 48; Catechism of the Catholic Church, Nos. 1883-5—have not changed the essential meaning of the principle, or tried to apply it in any way to the structures of the Church.<br /><br />The reluctance of not a few participants in the synod to apply the principle of subsidiarity to Church government stems from the nature of the principle as a sociological concept intended to regulate authority in political and economic spheres. While the Church is also a social reality, it is much more than a political structure.<br /><br />In its document on the nature and mission of the Church, "Lumen Gentium," the Second Vatican Council employed the theologically rich concept of collegiality rather than that of subsidiarity in describing how episcopal functions should be exercised in relation to the authority of the Pope and Curia. <br /><br />The collegiality between the bishops goes further than a restricted political reading of authority. The Church is not the same as a civil authority, where a balance of power needs to be maintained between the parts of the organism. Nor does ecclesiastical authority draw its validity from the will of the governed as a delegated power, but proceeds rather from the divine plan for the Church as revealed by Jesus Christ.<br /><br />A collegial exercise of authority where union with Rome is maintained avoids the danger of a decentralized structure where a bishop or group of bishops could act in a way that endangers the unity of the Church.<br /><br />John Paul II touched on this matter in his apostolic letter Novo Millennio Inuente. In No. 44 he wrote of the value of the Petrine ministry and episcopal collegiality. "These are realities which have their foundation and substance in Christ's own plan for the Church," John Paul II stated, "but which need to be examined constantly in order to ensure that they follow their genuinely evangelical inspiration." <br /><br />Nice try. Perhaps rather than making asinine attempts to "correct" me (and in the process making yourself look foolish), maybe you could channel that energy into fighting the evils of our time.<br /><br />I have written about the principle of subsidiarity. And I possess a firmer grasp of the concept than you do.<br /><br />Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-88539539844931526292014-11-22T09:01:47.040-08:002014-11-22T09:01:47.040-08:00Under the principal of subsidiarity, the issue sho...Under the principal of subsidiarity, the issue should be dealt with locally. The local bishop asked NCR to cease calling itself a Catholic publication ages ago; they ignored him. It is not the Pope's duty to admonish local magazines, but the bishop's. He's done that and so there is nothing more can be done except maybe the local bishop excommunicate the NCR staff. Peternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-43639253906245154302014-11-22T05:42:24.348-08:002014-11-22T05:42:24.348-08:00Comments from the Pope such as, "Who am I to ...Comments from the Pope such as, "Who am I to judge," are damaging the Church and her credibility.<br /><br />The Pope has received the Keys of the Kingdom. Whatever he binds on earth is bound in Heaven and whatever he looses on earth is loosed in Heaven.<br /><br />If the Vicar of Christ doesn't know who he is or what his vocation consists of, God help him and the Church.Dereknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-85022934567956424872014-11-22T01:45:54.519-08:002014-11-22T01:45:54.519-08:00http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/20...http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2014/11/21/americas-ratzinger-would-like-to-ask-pope-francis-if-he-fully-grasps-that-in-some-quarters-hes-created-the-impression-that-catholic-doctrine-<br /><br />Cardinal George is asking the right questions. The same questions I've been asking here.<br /><br />Such is the right of the Church's loyal sons.Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-18195331601171190182014-11-22T01:21:06.679-08:002014-11-22T01:21:06.679-08:00Inter Mirifica, No. 14 says that:
"...a good...Inter Mirifica, No. 14 says that:<br /><br />"...a good press should be fostered. To instill a fully Christian spirit into readers, a truly Catholic press should be set up and encouraged. Such a press-whether immediately fostered and directed by ecclesiastical authorities or by Catholic laymen-should be edited with the clear purpose of forming, supporting and advancing public opinion in accord with natural law and Catholic teaching and precepts."<br /><br />The National Catholic Distorter does not advance public opinion "in accord with natural law, Catholic teaching and precepts."<br /><br />Time for Rome to ask this dissenting publication to cease using the name Catholic!Davidnoreply@blogger.com