tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post6708455870322154054..comments2024-02-14T03:56:12.027-08:00Comments on La Salette Journey: Archbishop Loris Capovilla has "reservations" about Fatima and Marian devotion in generalPaul Anthony Melansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-66338240537874677162012-05-13T13:24:01.865-07:002012-05-13T13:24:01.865-07:00Mgr Capovilla fell some years ago straight into a ...Mgr Capovilla fell some years ago straight into a trap opened by Antonio Socci the writer of "Il quarto Segreto" (di Fatima). From the testimony of Mgr Capovilla, Socci could get strong clues and later evidence that the Vatican unveiled only a half of the Third Secret.<br />Probably he was dismayed to have so provided fuel to the Fatimist cause.jachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650477732170495698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-89670546607822223912012-05-13T13:08:26.764-07:002012-05-13T13:08:26.764-07:00One must take Mgr Capovilla's opinions with a ...One must take Mgr Capovilla's opinions with a lot of salt.<br />Here is how Franco Bellegrandi described him:<br />Mgr Roncalli's's secretary, carefully picked in the pack of those open to Marxism, is a frail, neurotic-looking priest, a certain Don Loris Capovilla, whose scarcely known credential is a brother, a communist cell-head from Mestre, right there, a stone’s throw from Venice. Therefore warmly recommended to Roncalli directly by the PCI (Italian Communist party). This priest, consumed by progressive fanaticism, will be made bishop by Paul VI. His way of running the diocese of Chieti, of which he is put in charge, embitters that clergy to the point that he will soon have to be transferred to Loreto. Here, the former secretary of John XXIII finds this ancient Sanctuary too triumphalist – the Italian Lourdes – to his progressive taste, and thus he orders that the decors be dismantled, starting with the precious glowing lamps that crowned the high altar, which he has sawed up, to make room for the little table-altar of the novel liturgy, leaving not even the window of the House of Mary untouched. But someone files a claim with the Soprintendenza ai Monumenti (Italy’s art works conservation agency), and the hand of the iconoclast is fortunately stopped on time."<br />Indeed a man I would not recommend our Holy Father to take him as his secretary.jachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17650477732170495698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-81754702586965170672012-05-12T14:33:34.678-07:002012-05-12T14:33:34.678-07:00The push is now on to do away with Fatima. On May...The push is now on to do away with Fatima. On May 13, 1981, Pope John Paul II was seriously wounded. Two bullets aimed at his skull missed as he bent down to look at a medal of the Lady of Fatima worn by a young girl in the crowd. In the recuperating room he read everything he could about Fatima, and he reread the Third Secret.<br /> <br />On May 13, 1982 (a year later), Pope John Paul II publicly thanked Our Lady for saving his life during his visit to Fatima. <br /><br />And on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception, on December 8, 1983, the Holy Father said that, 'Precisely at the end of the second millennium, there accumulates on the horizon of all mankind enormously threatening clouds, and darkness falls upon human souls." <br /><br />At the same time that the Fatima apparition is being dismissed by many as "irrelevant," the apostasy continues to spread throughout the Church.<br /><br />This is all rather frightening.Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-7058018351715774552012-05-12T13:03:50.558-07:002012-05-12T13:03:50.558-07:00Additionally, Pope Urban VIII said that, "In ...Additionally, Pope Urban VIII said that, "In cases like this (apparitions), IT IS BETTER TO BELIEVE THAN NOT TO BELIEVE, for, if you believe, and it is proven true, you will be happy that you have believed, because Our Holy Mother asked it. If you believe, and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessings as if it had been true, because you believed it to be true."Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-60499815934239962112012-05-12T13:00:30.103-07:002012-05-12T13:00:30.103-07:00Nice try. Regarding private revelations (such as ...Nice try. Regarding private revelations (such as Fatima), we read - from EWTN - "Some private revelations, however, the Church has accepted as credible, calling them constat de supernaturalitate (that is, they give evidence of a supernatural intervention). Such private revelations cannot correct or add anything essentially new to Public Revelation; however, they may contribute to a deeper understanding of the faith, provide new lines of theological investigation (such as suggested by the revelations to St. Margaret Mary on the Sacred Heart), or recall mankind prophetically to the living of the Gospel (as at Fátima). No private revelation can ever be necessary for salvation, though its content may obviously coincide with what is necessary for salvation as known from Scripture and Tradition. The person who believes the teachings of the Magisterium, utilizes devoutly the sacramental means of sanctification and prayer, and remains in Communion with the Pope and the bishops in union with him, is already employing the necessary means of salvation. A private revelation may recall wayward individuals to the faith, stir the devotion of the already pious, encourage prayer and penance on behalf of others, but it cannot substitute for the Catholic faith, the sacraments and hierarchical communion with the Pope and bishops.<br /><br />Another way of saying this is that private revelations may not be believed with divine and Catholic Faith. They rest on the credibility of the evidence in favor of a supernatural origin. In the case of private revelations approved by the highest authority in the Church we can say with Pope Benedict XIV, <br /><br />Although an assent of Catholic faith may not be given to revelations thus approved, still, AN ASSENT OF HUMAN FAITH, made according to the rules of prudence, IS DUE THEM; for according to these rules such revelations are probable and worthy of pious credence. [De Serv. Dei Beatif.]<br /><br />The Pope is saying that a Catholic, seeing that the Church (and here the Holy See is meant, as only it's acts can be of universal effect) has investigated and approved certain revelations, is being prudent to give them human assent. That acceptance does not rest on the guarantee of Faith, or the charism of infallibility, but on the credibility of the evidence as it appeals to reason. The assent involved is not supernatural but the natural assent that the intellect gives to facts which it judges to be true. Approved private revelations are thus worthy of our acceptance and can be of great benefit to the faithful, for as the Catechism of the Catholic Church notes, 'Guided by the Magisterium of the Church, the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.' [CCC 67]<br /><br />However, on the other hand, they do not demand acceptance by Catholics. As Pope Benedict states in the aforementioned text, <br /><br />it is possible to refuse to accept such revelations and to turn from them, as long as one does so with proper modesty, for good reasons, and without the intention of setting himself up as a superior. [De Serv. Dei Beatif.]"<br /><br />Archbishop Capovilla's attitude toward the Fatima apparition is inappropriate then. To say that he has "reservations" about Fatima when an assent of human faith is due is unfortunate.Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-61973066622144971122012-05-12T12:43:37.173-07:002012-05-12T12:43:37.173-07:00thank you for expressing your beliefs so well. It&...thank you for expressing your beliefs so well. It's my understanding that bishops are the teachers of the faith and to disagree with them or argue with them is wrong. One is to accept what bishops teach; to do other wise is hubris and against the church and the SpiritAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-35794627645557915262012-05-12T11:53:56.599-07:002012-05-12T11:53:56.599-07:00Since when is "excessive devotion" to Ma...Since when is "excessive devotion" to Mary a problem in the Church after Vatican II? It wasn't a problem before the Council. Now, marian devotion is almost non-existent. I read where only 2 percent of Catholics pray the Rosary every day. But some 80 percent of Catholic couples contracept.<br /><br />As for Fatima, this apparition has the Church's full approval. Although one does not have to accept private revelation, it is foolish to express "reservations" about it when the Church doesn't have any.<br /><br />If Archbishop Capovilla has no use for Fatima that's his affair. But some of us do. And we will not change our minds about Fatima just because he has "reservations."ShrewsburyCatholicnoreply@blogger.com