tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post7250090498083121252..comments2024-02-14T03:56:12.027-08:00Comments on La Salette Journey: Why would Father Richard P. McBrien refer to Eucharistic Adoration as a "needless devotion"?Paul Anthony Melansonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-90082188130656092052009-12-10T18:50:20.103-08:002009-12-10T18:50:20.103-08:00You need think about it. Despite the emails, the o...You need think about it. Despite the emails, the overwhelming evidence showing global warming is happening hasn't changed.<br />"The e-mails do nothing to undermine the very strong scientific consensus . . . that tells us the Earth is warming, that warming is largely a result of human activity," Jane Lubchenco, who heads the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, told a House committee. She said that the e-mails don't cover data from NOAA and NASA, whose independent climate records show dramatic warming.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-19232430436355109812009-09-15T04:34:36.431-07:002009-09-15T04:34:36.431-07:00Paul,
I fully agree with you.
My comments were onl...Paul,<br />I fully agree with you.<br />My comments were only a bit ironic.<br />I well acknowledge the VATII teachings that you quoted about Hell as much as the conclusion of JPII.<br />I just wanted to show how the VATII council was exploited by the modernists to lead the Church according to their agenda.<br />They succeeded in introducing a lot of errors in the minds, among those the non existence of Hell is the least.<br />The problem is that our priests and our bishops, even the most traditionalists of them, look as if they had been silenced and are afraid to reaffirm the Truth.<br /><br />Fr Mc Brien's despising of the Eucharistic Adoration is a further error added to a long string of other ones. Is he so pleased to lead the souls astray by his bizarre ideas? Anyway, will there any disciplinary action taken against him? Certainly not. <br />In other times the Vatican would have sent him forever in a remote monastery. Now millions of souls are at risk of eternal damnation and nobody cares.<br /><br />Rooting these errors took only a few years. Unrooting them will be much longer.albizzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-27306536758078072782009-09-14T12:53:27.273-07:002009-09-14T12:53:27.273-07:00Albizzi, actually you did imply that Vatican II di...Albizzi, actually you did imply that Vatican II did away with Hell. You wrote (and I quote): "Since Vatican II it is forbidden to condemn those who are in doctrinal error...Oops! I forgot that sin and Hell no longer exist since Vatican II."<br /><br />You now assert, "I remember..Pope John Paul II himsef wondering if Hell wasn't void eventually." Once again, you are wrong and are, in all likelihood, thinking of Cardinal von Balthazar's thought as expressed in his book "Dare We Hope That All Men Be Saved."<br /><br />As I mentioned in a previous post (in which I corrected a dishonest article written by Fr. John Dietzen):<br /><br />"Pope John Paul II concludes his remarks (which may be found on pages 185 to 186 of 'Crossing the Threshold of Hope') with a series of rhetorical questions which indicate that some sinners will end in hell: "Is not God who is Love also ultimate Justice?,' "Can He tolerate these terrible crimes," "Can they go unpunished?," "Isn't final punishment in some way necessary in order to reestablish moral equilibrium in the complex history of humanity?," "Is not hell in a certain sense the ultimate safeguard of man's moral conscience?"<br /><br />Source:<br />http://lasalettejourney.blogspot.com/2009/04/father-john-dietzen-gets-it-wrong-part.htmlPaul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-29887783930879973132009-09-14T09:26:31.816-07:002009-09-14T09:26:31.816-07:00Paul,
I don't say the document you are quoting...Paul,<br />I don't say the document you are quoting doesn't exist, but the poisonous "Spirit of Vatican II" used by many to say and to do all and the contrary of all, does as if it never existed.<br />Indeed, it is very seldom when one hears a full homily about Hell or about sin, and still more seldom with conciliar documents to support the speech.<br />I remember the pope JPII himself wondering if Hell wasn't void eventually.<br />If Hell is void it is equal as if it never existed.<br />The Modernists are used to read the Conciliar documents only when they go according to their agendas and ignore them in the contrary.albizzinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-74183138548659305252009-09-14T05:48:53.922-07:002009-09-14T05:48:53.922-07:00Someone left a comment at this Blog falsely assert...Someone left a comment at this Blog falsely asserting that Vatican II did not teach on Hell. I have said it many times and I'll say it again, critics of Vatican II (both modernists who advocate a "spirit of Vatican II" which isn't based upon the texts and so-called "Traditionalists" who desire to blame Vatican II for all of the ills in the Church) who haven't even read the Conciliar documents need to step back, relax, and take the time to study the 16 documents.<br /><br />Vatican II, basing itself on the New Testament, teaches:<br /><br /><br />"Since however we know not the day nor the hour, on Our Lord's advice we must be constantly vigilant so that, having finished the course of our earthly life, we may merit to enter into the marriage feast with Him and to be numbered among the blessed and that we may not be ordered to go into eternal fire like the wicked and slothful servant, into the exterior darkness where "there will be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth". For before we reign with Christ in glory, all of us will be made manifest "before the tribunal of Christ, so that each one may receive what he has won through the body, according to his works, whether good or evil" and at the end of the world "they who have done good shall come forth unto resurrection of life; but those who have done evil unto resurrection of judgment". Reckoning therefore that "the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory to come that will be revealed in us", strong in faith we look for the "blessed hope and the glorious coming of our great God and Saviour, Jesus Christ" "who will refashion the body of our lowliness, conforming it to the body of His glory. and who will come "to be glorified in His saints and to be marveled at in all those who have believed"<br /><br />And Vatican II doesn't mention Hell? Then what is this "eternal fire" for those "who have done evil"?<br /><br />Honestly, this sort of nonsense does not help the Church. Let's all take the time to read the Conciliar documents. Is that too much to ask?Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-49677208421000381902009-09-12T15:06:11.827-07:002009-09-12T15:06:11.827-07:00Fr. Richard McBrien and Fr. John Catoir have suppo...Fr. Richard McBrien and Fr. John Catoir have supported the ordination of women. Because the Church has said definitively that women cannot be ordained (Ordinatio Sacerdotalis, No. 4), Fr. McBrien has said that being a Catholic now is like "belonging to a private club that won't admit blacks or Jews."<br /><br />Fr. John Catoir has said that women WILL BE ordained deacons and priests one day.<br /><br />Such dissent is an attack on the faithful. It is an act of spiritual violence. Why do we not hear from our Bishops who are supposed to be defending the faith?Jennifernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-55020311831262166992009-09-12T10:48:59.985-07:002009-09-12T10:48:59.985-07:00"if we hand ourselves over to evil it is by o..."if we hand ourselves over to evil it is by our own doing." Well said Sanctus. To spurn devotion to, and Adoration of, the Eucharist is to spurn Divine Love. One will ultimately stand self-condemned if one refuses to love the Eternal Wisdom.<br /><br />Without passing judgment on Fr. McBrien, objectively speaking he is engaged in a work of evil. Any attempt to discourage others from Eucharistic Adoration - or any other form of Adoration or worship of God - is a work of evil.<br /><br />Pray for Fr. McBrien.Paul Anthony Melansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08455719838570381999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-5142443723819074532009-09-12T09:23:29.646-07:002009-09-12T09:23:29.646-07:00It is for the Lord to judge each person, but from ...It is for the Lord to judge each person, but from this priest's words it would be logical to conclude his spiritual sense of sin has been darkened most likely due to personal sin.<br /><br />Free will is a terribly freedom and if we hand ourselves over to evil it is by our own doing.Sanctus Bellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06189142564821094716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-67523218493768351652009-09-12T09:04:57.515-07:002009-09-12T09:04:57.515-07:00We need Jesus in the Eucharist. We need to adore ...We need Jesus in the Eucharist. We need to adore Him. It's Father McBrien's nonsense and apostasy that we don't need. The Eucharist is central to our faith, or at least it should be. Pope Paul VI said that, "To visit the Blessed Sacrament is...a proof of gratitude, an expression of love, and a duty of adoration toward Christ our Lord." This i cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1418). If Father's description of Eucharistic Adoration isn't a sign of the apostasy we have entered, what is it? A sign of faith?Stewartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9695096.post-41209554731710374422009-09-12T08:42:39.241-07:002009-09-12T08:42:39.241-07:00Fr. McBrien's attitude toward Jesus Our Euchar...Fr. McBrien's attitude toward Jesus Our Eucharistic Love may only be described by one word: demonic.Michael Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17489929697997071892noreply@blogger.com