Friday, March 23, 2012

Archbishop Vincent Nichols continues to tolerate dissent from Terence Weldon

Terence Weldon, the radical homosexual activist who authors the "Queering the Church" Blog and who serves as an Extraordinary Minister at the infamous Soho Masses in England - the same disturbed individual who has blasphemously suggested that Our Lord Jesus had a homosexual inclination - is once again challenging the authoritative teaching of the Catholic Church regarding the homosexual inclination.  He writes, "In the CDF Hallowe’en Letter [here he is sarcastically and irreverently refering to the October 1, 1986 document entitled "Letter on the Pastoral Care of Homosexual Persons" published by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith], possibly the most offensive and damaging element was the labelling of the homosexual orientation as 'intrinsically disordered' – but just what does 'disordered' in fact mean? Science has shown from mental health and from animal biology that it [the homosexual inclination] is entirely natural, and not in any scientific sense disordered." (See here).

Actually science has shown exactly the opposite.  Dutch psychologist Gerard J.M. van den Aardweg, Ph.D., a specialist on homosexuality (unlike Mr. Weldon who has no expertise in this area), says that the claim that homosexuality is normal is one of those statements that are "so foolish that only intellectuals could believe them." It is like saying that anorexia nervosa is healthy. Dr. Aardweg notes that, "The term neurotic describes such relationships well. It suggests the ego-centeredness of the relationship; the attention-seeking instead of loving...Neurotic, in short, suggests all kinds of dramas and childish conflicts as well as the basic disinterestedness in the partner, notwithstanding the shallow pretensions of 'love.' Nowhere is there more self-deception in the homosexual than in his representation of himself as a lover. One partner is important to the other only insofar as he satisfies that other's needs. Real, unselfish love for a desired partner would, in fact, end up destroying homosexual 'love'!" (Dr. Gerard J.M. van den Aardweg, The Battle for Normality, Ignatius Press, 1997, pp. 62-63).

In an interview with ZENIT, which may be found here, Dale O'Leary, a writer and researcher for the Catholic Medical Association, says that the CMA has found in its research that, "..well-designed studies that compare persons with same-sex attractions with the general public have found that persons with same-sex attractions are far more likely to suffer from psychological disorders...The studies published in the Archives of General Psychiatry found that persons self-identified as homosexual in comparison to the general public had almost double the rate of suicidal ideation or attempts, substance abuse problems and psychological disorders. One of the studies found that 78.6% of the gay, lesbian or bisexual group suffered from multiple disorders...And there are other problems: Domestic violence is more common among same-sex couples. Men with same-sex attractions are more likely to become infected with a STD, including HIV, hepatitis or HPV, which can lead to cancer. Thus, several studies suggest that 50% of men who have sex with men will become HIV positive before age 50."

And what of Mr. Weldon's ridiculous claim that science has shown "from animal biology" that the homosexual inclination is not "in any scientific sense disordered"?  It is significant that Mr. Weldon doesn't produce any research to back his asinine claim.  This because there is none.  Quite the reverse is true.  In fact, Dr. Antonio Pardo, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Navarre, Spain, explains that: "Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals...For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex.  Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such.  Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual.  Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal homosexuality.  All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction." (Antonio Pardo, "Aspectos medicos de la homosexualidad," Nuestro Tiempo, Jul-Aug. 1995, pp. 82-89).

Mr. Weldon betrays his ignorance with the "if animals do it then it must be natural" argument.  Animals frequently engage in other forms of behavior such as parental killing of offspring or intra-species devouring.  Shall we then say that such behaviors would be "normal" and "healthy"?

But enough of Terence Weldon.  I'm frankly far more concerned about his Bishop - Archbishop Vincent Nichols.  The Archbishop doesn't seem concerned at all about the right of the faithful to receive Catholic doctrine in its purity and integrity (Veritatis Splendor, No. 113).  He seems oblivious to the scandal of the Soho Masses and the actions of Terence Weldon.  See here.

13 comments:

Dale said...

Abp Nichols is doing violence to the faithful entrusted to his care. By refusing to address this bold and open dissent, he takes part in it.

Stewart said...

Shameful!!! The Vatican should remove Archbishop Nichols. If he doesn't care enough to deal with dissenters like Weldon, he has no pastoral love for souls.

Ellen Wironken said...

Terry Weldon is once again insinuating that Pope Benedict XVI is "gay."

http://queeringthechurch.com/2012/03/23/is-pope-benedict-gay/

Matt Westwood said...

This posting and this blog constitutes a hate crime. You all need to look very very carefully over your shoulders in the future.

Look on the bright side. You will all be in your beloved heaven.

NOT. You're all going to hell.

Barry McNorton said...

Well, if I ever needed any further evidence that the Catholic church is a fascistic, intolerant, bigoted and hate-filled organisation, I need go no further than this. Shameful is, indeed, the right word. My only source of puzzlement is why Mr Weldon would wish to continue to be associated with the nonsense that is Catholic 'teaching'

Cleghornboy said...

Matt, you accuse me of "hate" and then you warn that I will have to "look very very carefully" over my shoulders in the future. Is this a threat?

Barry, you assert that the Catholic church "is a fascistic, intolerant, bigoted and hate-filled organisation." On what do you base this claim? Your dislike for her teaching? Orthodox Jews, Muslims, evangelical Christians and numerous other groups also oppose homosexual acts. Why do you single out the Catholic Church?

Matt Westwood said...

@Barry: No, it's not a threat, at least, not from me. It's a warning that you are making a lot of potentially very powerful people very, very angry.

And no, you are not being singled out for special attention: all extreme hate-based fascistic death cults (xtianity, islam, all of the stinking pile of disgusting mediaeval superstitious nonsense) are all deserving of (and get) the same level of contempt, hatred and disgust. The "tu quoque" argument you use is unexcusable.

Cleghornboy said...

Thank you for the warning Matt. I choose to listen to the Son of Man who warns, "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body but after that can do no more. I shall show you whom to fear. Be afraid of the one who after killing has the power to cast into Gehenna; yes, I tell you, be afraid of that one." (Luke 12: 4-5).

Who are these powerful people I am angering? Would you care to mention their names?

Anonymous said...

This is the most appalling fascictic papist nonsense I have ever come across

Stewart said...

The word is "fascistic," anonymous. Not "fascictic." Since you cannot even spell the word, perhaps you're not the best qualified to label anything fascistic?

But perhaps you would care to elaborate? Please do share your wonderful theological "insights."

oraetlabora said...

Homosexuality and Onanism are similar since both deal with "wasting seed(sperm cells) in obtaining pleasure; Onan was struck dead for his "coitus interruptus" deed angering the Lord big time;Please tow the line, the straight line and you can be labelled a "straight" person by the Lord.

Cleghornboy said...

For those not familar with the story of Onan, I refer you to Genesis Chapter 38. The term Onanism (an early one for artificial birth control) comes from the name Onan.

According to Catholic doctrine, any disorderly tendency, above all to a vice contrary to nature, cannot have a right to citizenship in a person's thoughts. If someone in his mind makes a concession to this tendency, he sins. This is why in the Confiteor one asks forgiveness for thoughts, words and deeds.

As for the act of sodomy, it constitutes a sin that cries out to Heaven and clamors to God for vengeance (See Gn 18:20; Gn 19:12-13; Lv 18:22; Lv 18"24-28; Lv 20:13; 1 Cor 6: 9-10; Rm 1: 24-27; 2 Pt 2:4-9; Jd 7:8).

Saint Augustine was most frank in his condemnation of sodomy and similar vices: "Sins against nature, therefore, like the sin of Sodom, are abominable and deserve punishment whenever and wherever they are committed...for our Maker did not prescribe that we should use each other in this way. In fact, the relationship that we ought to have with God is itself violated when our nature, of which He is Author, is desecrated by perverted lust." (St. Augustine, Confessions, New York: Penguin, 1967; Book III. Chap 8, p.65).

Homosexuality is ranked among the "sins that cry to heaven for vengeance." Which is why the angels said to Lot: "We are about to destroy this place, for the outcry reaching the Lord against those in the city is so great that he has sent us to destroy it." In his Second Epistle, St. Peter explains how the punishment inflicted on Sodom and Gomorrah stands as a warning to evildoers: "God condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction, reducing them to ashes, making them an example for the godless of what is coming." (2 Peter 2: 6).

In his 1910 Catechism, Pope Saint Pius X tells us that sodomy ranks second in gravity to voluntary homicide among the sins that "cry out to God for vengeance." According to this Catechism, crafted by one of the greatest Popes of the modern era - the Pope of the Eucharist, raised to the altars of the Church - "These sins are said to cry out to God because the Holy Spirit says so and because their iniquity is so grave and manifest that it provokes God to punish with more severe chastisements."

oraetlabora said...

Cleghornboy: You're right on about your comment on April 4 at 1:02 AM of Onanism; funny but at the same time I also commented to the same as being akin to homosexuality ; oraetlabora

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